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Wayne Smith (Portland, US)
PS: These false Jews ARE Babylon - in all its fulness and power!! They rule the world.
28th August 2017 3:24pm
Shabbat Shalom Everyone,

This forum is about YHWH's people fleeing from Babylon (Revelation 18:4).

I myself have yet to flee. Why? I believe that the timing has to be right. If we leave too early, we are liable to come back. If we leave too late, well, there might not even be a leaving too late! So, timing is of extreme importance. Having said that, the following from YirmeYahu is of significance...

Jeremiah 51:45-47

45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of YHWH.

46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.

47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
12th August 2017 5:29am
Richard (Panama City)
V.1 defines the woman as a great harlot who sits on many waters.
V.5 defines the woman as Babylon and Mother of harlots & abominations.
V.18 defines the woman as a great city that rules over kings of earth.
This sounds an awful lot like the Vatican. Are you in the Vatican or a member of the Catholic Church?
12th August 2017 10:10am
The woman of whom those verses refer, I believe to be represented by the Statue of Liberty.

Who or What is Mystery Babylon?
12th August 2017 10:29am
Yes, America is Babylon. I was shown the total destruction soon to come upon this once great nation.
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12th August 2017 10:56am
Letter To The Jews

It's interesting that there have been so many views on "Babylon The Great" down through the centuries.

No doubt, early Christians believed it to be Rome, the city of the seven hills. Luther, in the Middle Ages, believed it was the papal power in Rome. Perhaps this, more than anything else, kicked off the Protestant break from Catholicism.

I also used to believe it was Rome, but my studies and prayers recently have led me away from that and closer to something like NYC.

Whatever it actually is, I get the impression that YHWH wants the identity to be a little fuzzy, until the time when He is ready to reveal it.

He may have revealed it to individuals, but I suspect he will also reveal it to the wider world through signs and portents, just as he did before the fall of Jerusalem in 70CE.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't study, reason and debate it. I'm just saying, I'm personally wary of stating its meaning with certainty.
13th August 2017 11:59am
Richard (Panama City)
Or maybe Hollywood. There has been a few merchants get rich off of her decadence.
13th August 2017 3:24pm
WC Smith (Portland, US)
1. Babel is everywhere! Name a nation that is free of Babel. All the kings of the earth are in bed with her.
2. Rumors are the rule of the day ... stock market crash - war with N. Korea - war with Russia - overthrow of Trump - collusion upon collusion - next: blood in our streets??
12th August 2017 10:57am
Richard (Panama City)
Her daughters are certainly everywhere.
Revelation 17:5
and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
12th August 2017 1:14pm
Greg (Toledo Ohio, US)
"If we leave too late, well, there might not even be a leaving too late!"

I dully agree,... That made me chuckle though... :)
1st November 2017 1:41pm
Greg (Toledo Ohio, US)
FULLY agree, even... :)
1st November 2017 1:48pm
wayne Smith (Portland, US)
Concerning the Flying Scroll :
ZekarYahuw 5:1 Then again I lifted up my eyes, and saw, and behold, a flying roll.
5:2 He said to me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying roll; its length is twenty cubits, and its breadth ten cubits.”
These are the exact dimensions of the Qodesh Place, the first room the kohenim entered in the Tabernacle. So this is something that correlates to that room. (Luke 23:45) So there is open access to that room. However, the dimensions of the Most Set-apart Place, where YaHuWaH’s presence dwelt, are excluded. So what it represents will have part of YaHuWaH’s truth, but be lacking the most intimate aspects of His presence (His Name).
ZekarYahuw 5:3 Then he said to me, “This is the curse (alah .. aw-law #423) that goes out over the face of the whole earth: 'From this time forth, anyone who steals will be purged away according to the writing on one side; and everyone who swears falsely will be purged away according to the writing on the other side.' (YashaYahuw 24:6; Deut. 25:15-68)
[Bible in Basic English: Then he said to me, This is the curse which goes out over the face of all the land: for long enough has every thief gone without punishment, and long enough has every taker of false oaths gone without punishment.]
5:4 I will cause it (the curse) to go out,” says YaHuWaH Master of Armies, “and it will enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him who swears falsely by My Name; and it will remain in the midst of his house, and will destroy it with its timber and its stones.”
10th August 2017 7:49pm
wayne smith (Portland, US)
ZekarYahuw 5:5 Then the Messenger Who talked with me came forward, and said to me, “Lift up now your eyes, and see what is this that is appearing.” 5:6 I said, “What is it?” He said, “This is the efah-measure that is appearing.” He said moreover, “This is their eye throughout the whole earth (Aramaic:This is an ephah that goes forth, and in it are the transgressions of the whole earth.)

Their eye: or, wellspring, the fountain from which a counterfeit “truth” flows. Ephah: a dry measure equivalent to ten omers (Ex. 16:36). Since an omer is the amount needed to feed one man for one day (16:16), it represents one man. Ten men represents a minyan (quorum), and thus symbolizes a complete congregation. So this measuring basket represents a congregation just as the flying scroll did, focusing us even more clearly to the conclusion that this whole chapter is speaking about the Church as the counterfeit tabernacle, overemphasizing YaHuWaH’s favor and underemphasizing the pureness YaHuWaH requires where His presence is to dwell. To a lesser degree it also represents rabbinic Judaism, another twisting of the Torah for the purposes of convenience and a lust for power (originally).

5:7 And, lo and behold, a round-talent-weight of lead was lifted off, and there was a woman sitting inside the the efah basket.” Round talent-weight: all one term in Hebrew. In the context of the flying roll it probably represents the winged sun-disk so common as a pagan symbol, the spirit of which the Church adopted by emphasizing the “day of the Sun”. Woman: singular or unified or adulterous"woman/wife" depicting the "great whore" of Babel. But YaHuWaH is building a unified man. (Eph. 2:15)

5:8 He said, “This is Wickedness;” and he (the Messenger) threw her down into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the leaden stone weight into its mouth.
The Lawlessness/Wickedness: a “secret” which is held back at present, but will not always be. (2 Thess. 2:7) But when it is released, it will be judged.

5:9 Then lifted I up my eyes, and saw, and behold, there were two women, and the wind (ruwach) was in their wings. (for they had wings like the wings of a stork), and they lifted up the efah-measure between earth and the sky. 5:10 Then said I to the Messenger who talked with me, “Where are these carrying the efah-measure?” 5:11 He said to me, “To build it a house in the land of Shinar. When it is prepared, it will be set there in its base.”
[where Tower of Babel was built - the territory of the King of the North and "the beast?" Presently in Iraq ... ie, Lawlessness will be "based" there!][ It is also possible that "Shinar" is modern day Babel [the "base" being the USA"] from which so much evil originates and is sown into all the world ... Rev. 17 & 18.] ---- some think it is Mecca in Arabia. The USA recently finished building the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad !!!
10th August 2017 6:36pm
Letter To The Jews

Zechariah 5:6-11 may also relate to this. Here's how I translate it:

“And I said, ‘what is it?’ And he said, ‘This is the ephah going forth.’ And he said, ‘This is their eye in all the earth.’ And look! A disk of lead was lifted up, and this one woman sitting in the midst of the ephah. And he said, ‘This one is The Wickedness.’ And he thrust her into the midst of the ephah, and he thrust a stone of the lead over its mouth.

And I lifted up my eyes, and I saw, and look! Two women going forth, and wind was in their wings, and they had wings like the wings of the stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens.

And I said to the messenger, the one speaking with me, ‘Where are they taking the ephah?’ And he said to me, ‘To build for her a house in the land of Shinar; and it will be established and set there upon her base.’”

(It's a good idea to look at the Hebrew, at a site like scripture4all.org to see how English translations don't do a great job of this passage.)

Now, this prophecy probably has multiple layers of meaning. But here's what's interesting:

"The disk of lead seals the ephah, and may also itself be describing a seal, like that used by countries, states and cities. For example, the Great Seal of the United States is known throughout the earth as having an eye, lifted up over a base, namely a pyramid.

Individual cities and states have their own unique seals as well, with their own distinctive symbols. For example, the seal of the state of New York has two caped women, representing Liberty and Justice. The foot of “Liberty” tramples upon a crown, and “Justice” holds a pair of scales for weighing, and a sword. Underneath them is the Latin motto, “Excelsior,” meaning “Ever Upward.” They stand between a shield, which contains a mountain, a river and ships, and with what looks like a lid being lifted up. Around the seal is a rope." (Letter To The Jews, Chapter 40)

This is talked about in more detail in Chapter 40 of "Letter To The Jews".

It's also worth doing a Google image search for "seal of New York state".

In the above letter, I was careful not to spell out any conclusion, because these prophecies are somewhat ambiguous.

However, there are quite a few other overlooked prophecies that seem to strongly hint at a certain conclusion.
10th August 2017 4:21pm
Jack (US)
This could mean the "Eye In The Sky" which could mean a satellite. Zechariah was shown Ishtar, "Mother of Harlots" "Queen of Heaven" moving her base, a replica of her stands in New York harbor as the Statue of Liberty. Those that put her there I have serious doubts these men were Christians as the great majority believes, a Christian Mason? maybe? if they are they're the ones in what I call the outer core, not the inner core, the Inner Core Freemasons worships Satan.
19th September 2017 5:51pm
Richard (Panama City)
Most of Christiandom unknowingly worships Satan. They have a doctrine of lawlessness and they worship their Mighty-one they call god which is pronounced identically as the name of the Phoenician false diety of fortune.
19th September 2017 6:15pm
Greg (Toledo Ohio, US)
Speaking of which, aside from the fact that they are seemingly and sadly too stupid to understand that we do not live in "THEIR DEMOCRACY...." ...

Is extreme Patriotism a sin? How and why exactly would one really pledge allegiance to a piece of fabric dedicated to the memory of a nation supposedly dedicated to a Father it will sadly never know? :(
29th July 2017 3:10pm
Wayne Smith (Portland, US)
Rev, 11:16-17 The twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before YaHuWaH's throne, fell on their faces and worshiped Aluhym, saying: “We give You thanks, O YaHuWaH, Almighty Aluhym, the One Who is and Who was; because You have taken Your great power and begun to reign. 11:18 The nations raged, but Your wrath has come, as did the time for the dead to be judged, and to give Your slaves the prophets, their reward, as well as to ha'qedoshim, and those who fear Your Name, small and great; and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Tehillim 46:6 The nations raged. The reigns were moved. He lifted his Voice, and the earth melted. 46:7 YaHuWaH Master of Armies is with us. The Aluhym of Ya'aqob is our refuge. Selah. 46:8 Come, see YaHuWaH's works, what desolations He has made in the earth. 46:9 He makes wars cease to the end of the earth. He breaks the bow, and shatters the spear. He burns the chariots in the fire.

Psalms 2:1-5 Why do the nations rage, and the peoples plot a vain thing? The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take counsel together, against YaHuWaH, and against His Mashiyach, saying, “Let’s break Their bonds apart, and cast Their cords from us.” He Who sits in the heavens shall laugh. YaHuWaH mocks at them. Then He shall speak to them in His anger and terrify them in His wrath: [the plagues ]
8th July 2017 6:54pm
Greg (Toledo, US)
There is a rather sobering page that depicts the Sign on the "cross" (as it says, but should say "stake"):

8th July 2017 5:20pm
Richard (Panama City)
The book quasi-quoted in this article, The Great Controversy, is a must read for all believers. However, let it be known that the author, Ellen G. White, did not use the true names as edited into this article. Aside from that, this book is a mastery of insight in its overlay of scripture with the history of Christianity.
8th July 2017 6:51pm
Wayne Smith (Portland, US)
The Book Great Controversy along with other of her "history books" - those of EG White - were copied mostly and almost literally from Edersheim - and never was he given credit ... be very careful with her writings ... she is a fraud... extraordinary.
8th July 2017 7:38pm
Richard (Panama City)
This accusation is without supporting evidence. Read the book and ignore the unsubstantiated accusations. Bring the proof or hold your tongue. This is no place for gossip.
8th July 2017 10:00pm
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